please make a song about this. you don't necessarily have to name names, but be that real mc who shits on the guys who

"get on the mic with the funky fresh style
spit my fire until the crowd goes wild
spit my fire until i burn a child
'cause i rap so cold my fucking teeth are frozen
while my man brings the beats 'til your tape deck's broken"

haha word to that mista crown!

i'm better, but that's just me

If I was a rapper the only things I'd ever talk about would be my kia sportage and the leather heated seats and 16" factory wheels with the front grill peice missing cause some fucker backed into me. :)




Mr. Crown- I agree with dawson, make a song about this.

all else being equal, i'd rather hear about your sportage than your pyroclastic flow

name names.

the truth is I shouldn'thave to name names.. the people who are faulty, and doing what I'm talking about know who they are.

I agree with what you said, but gimme some names. it's funner that way.

i dont even know who johns talking about but i know what he means about having to think you're the best. Truthfully i think i'm the best rapper out right now but if somebody else tells me it i don't believe it. its a weird dynamic. i think it's kinda like when you play basketball you need to think every shot that you're shooting is going in and then you can get into a rhythm. same thing here, u gotta think that you're really killing shit and eventually you really will start killing shit if you can stay humble enough to notice your flaws. I'm also not really threatened by it because i know every good emcee thinks like this pretty much.

Huh? what's with this guy? The fact that he had to talk shit about other rappers completely contradicts his original statement! 99 problems and rap aint one? then why you posting this shit in the first place?

John is good in my book, and besides he was the first person to show up to my birthday party this year. But on this rapper shit I'm on some Kool Keith like "word to mom I'm in my own world."

i suck at rapping

im the best rapper in my house right now. does that count?

The streets be heated, nigga

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Defman253:

Huh? what's with this guy? The fact that he had to talk shit about other rappers completely contradicts his original statement! 99 problems and rap aint one? then why you posting this shit in the first place?

who is this guy?

who is anybody?


^that deepness right there signifies i'm the best rapper cause i am FUCKING LIVING


....

you guys are going to make me bust out the photoshop like i did on 12ozprophet.com if ya'll keep being gay

http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133209

theres the link if youw ant to see

What da fuck...John Crown should go masturbate someplace else.

this is my favorite terrible thread ever to grace this forum, and perfectly demonstrates what i dislike about 74% of this community.

crown's post is so contradictory it makes me spit! and i love all the "i'm a deep rapper and most of you are not (except you you you and all of you)" talk. that's hilarious!

who are you to judge what is a fair topic to rap about?
you rap about "life from your eyes?"
wow, that's probably just as original as every battle rapper ever.
i mean comeon.. what about the rappers that rap about "bitches" and "guns" and "fights" and just generally bein "gangsta?" ???
are they off the hook cause that's "life from their eyes?"

a very misguided post, to say the least.
i guess i see where you're going, but you headed there and then turned around, started walking the other way, sat down, took a shit, rolled in it a bit then fell through a blackhole.

that's how i see it.

thanks though for this opportunity to make myself chuckle.
i had fun typing in your thread.

http://www.reverbnation.com/rapsongzproducedbymiztahzelle

everybody knows dragonfish killswitch is the best mc outta tactown hands down!!

:rolling:

all i rhyme about is invertabrates cephalapods and bicuspids tho biootches

I think you are all taking what crown is saying completely out of context!!!!

umm..he started the thread. what he is saying IS the context.

i'm sorry what context is it? is the context to make him look like a shit talkin tiger with a heart of fire? is it to stir shit up? what is the context good sir?

i get what he's saying, dont rap about being good at rapping, great but...he could have said that without all the ego boosting, that should be reserved for the mic (i think). you want people to think you're amazing/tough/whatthefuckever maybe show humility until its time to actually prove yourself. not that mr. crown needs to prove himself, dont get me wrong he's fuckin rad, guess if you're going to make a statement like that and point fingers (without naming names) like that people are going to expect you to well, name names.

i have nothing to bring to this because i am the anti-rapper. i brag about how much i suck, how unmotivated i am and honestly i just dont care enough. "i been shit since before yesterday i'm still shit today"

ok ok.. maybe I'm not the most articulate person when I'm venting. Am I wrong for speaking my mind, even if I'm wrong, or contradict myself. I've just heard so much music about music, and maybe I'm bias because I write music. This whole thing started from a conversation. And I took it to the blog to see what other people thought.


what I'm trying to say is this.

If you're a good rapper the songs will speak for themselves. You don't need to write entire songs about that one subject. I look at music like a poet would. Somebody once told me the beauty in poetry or writing is that often somebody will say what you feel and just couldn't put into words. When I listen to music I want to relate with that artist. I've heard too many songs about rap. So FORGIVE me for speaking my mind. And I don't feel I'm contradicting myself. I'm an MC, and it's competitive, so that part of me comes out. As often as the part of me that wants to be insightful, If I wasn't the type to talk shit, and open my big mouth I'd just write poetry, every artist is confrontational.

as for the ego

JOHN CROWN IS THE BEST RAPPER EVER...lol

shouts to CAN-U, UNDERSTATEMENT, ERIC SODERQUIST, AND JAY BARZ, wait FUCK JAY BARZ...lol..

now was that so hard? lol

[quote]

john crown:

shouts to CAN-U, UNDERSTATEMENT, ERIC SODERQUIST, AND JAY BARZ, wait FUCK JAY BARZ...lol..


You getten me back for spellen your name wrong on the flyer that one time? haha

I see a lot of accusations of hypocrisy floating around this thread. But there's a key flaw in the foundation of the logic used to point it out. And that's that if you try and bring light to someones contradictions, and they are already aware of them, then you're pretty much wasting your breath. It doesn't make them right, or justify them in anyway, it just solidifies the moral limbo hypocrisy is in the 1st place. You may be the deepest most humble emcee out there...but if you don't have the testicular fortitude to do anything about it then you might as well not even do it in the first place. thus, making you a hypocrite from the get go. So Mr.Crown...i do concur...you are the best rapper....but yah still aint shit lol.

in fact....all you assholes are garbage ROFL

[quote]

john crown:

ok ok.. maybe I'm not the most articulate person when I'm venting.

uhh... then you must be a terrible rapper?
i mean, aren't most raps (or any musical expression for that matter, poetry included) a form of "venting?"
so you aren't articulate when you vent?
but you're still the best rapper?

you continue to contradict yourself, yet deny ever having once done such.

still quite the humorous thread, bravo!


i personally have no problem with you speaking your mind. never once did i ask you to stop "venting."
i'm all for your free expression on here, especially when i get to pick it apart. that's fun for me and you get to vent, ergo win win.

i also have a problem with this quote:

[quote]If I wasn't the type to talk shit, and open my big mouth I'd just write poetry, every artist is confrontational.
so poetry is by your definition non-confrontational?
and your rap is not a form of poetry?
seems to me you maybe took your learnings of poetry from a fourth grade english class and never developed it further in order to apply it to what you are trying to do with your career. that's a fatal mistake, as everything you are working on is rooted in poetry. and if you've never read a confrontational poem, you have a lot of catching up to do...
i mean, wow. what a hell of a revealing couple sentences i quoted there.

indeed

nasty, you're much more logical and john is a MUCH better rapper. but by your defintion, how could that be since he's illogical? oh this crazy illogical world we live in.

this thread is a headache and a fucking half if you see a wack rapper just crush him on wax/stage/blackbook drawing/pistols at dawn/allegorical short story. simple enough, i think

if the poster nasty left is the rapper on the myspace then i'll cosign can u 'cause that stuff is piss poor

cliffnotes please, tooo much text

wow. funny how i get shat on when all i'm doing is calling out a guy who's pissing on the rest of the community.

did i ever come on here and say i am the savior of hip hop and that my shit owns all your faces?
pretty sure not.

i write music for the band and play guitar. there are a few songs i occasionally rap on, but by no means do i consider myself a rapper. but this isn't about me or my band, so back the fuck up. i'm sorry i don't jock can-u like everyone else here. i personally find his music to be extremely mediocre, unoriginal, and uninspired.
but again, that's not what this thread is about and not where i was going in my postings.

if i had posted my thoughts from an anonymous username, how would you babies have responded then with nothing to fall back on?

i dont think people jock me on here, i think its more of a respect thing. like somebody telling me that was a good song, thats respect, its not jocking me. as far as you thinking i'm mediocre, i'm sure theres no bias for any reason on that. as far as this thread goes, I don't think its actually john shitting on everyone, its more him saying that if you dont think you're the best then put the mic down. which i agree with to a certain extent.

I think instead of deconstructing the statement and feeling threatened by it you should realize what he's saying and move on. you're not gonna get anywhere with your flawed logic.

i don't know john crown and didn't read enough of his post or yours to decide whether either of you were right. i frankly do not care. your music just sucks.

i don't care whether or not you said you were good, just that you aren't. your music just sucks.

who jocks can u? he's better than you, but that's not saying much. your music just sucks.

dawson with the crossover, spins, drives the lane and dunks on nasty left.
nasty with the inbounds pass. coming down the court. repsonse?
finally a little bit of action on the forum again.

john crown and can u were killin it last time i see them on stage. but i don't jock.

cant you guys put your differences aside and not bicker about stupid shit with eachother. eventhough i enjoy reading it.

[quote]

Can-U:

I think instead of deconstructing the statement and feeling threatened by it you should realize what he's saying and move on. you're not gonna get anywhere with your flawed logic.

first of all, my logic is hardly flawed. you yourself said i had outstanding logic in your earlier post.
second of all, i don't know where you got the idea that i felt threatened by his statements.
i don't think they were pointed in my direction by any means. i've never had any interaction with john in any negative connotations. i just thought what he was saying was ridiculous for all the reasons stated in my two relevant posts.
i would like to "realize what he's saying and move on" but i can't figure out what he's saying as he continues to contradict himself and he fails to see a connection between poetry and hip hop. that's pure ignorance and i came to the internet to debate shit like that. isn't that why we're all here?!

and sure, there may be a bit of bias in my opinions of your music. but wouldn't you say the same for your opinions of mine? i think probably so, therefore your point is completely null and void of any substance. (once again.)


as far as dawson is concerned, i could give a shit if you don't like my music. i didn't ask you to like it and i didn't even ask you to listen to it. i'm not making music to make it big, i have no false delusions of grandeur, i'm just tryin to have fun. and comeon, there's an assload of bands in Tacoma making WAY WORSE shit than we are. picking on us is a bit of a waste and a stretch. we have a pretty strong fanbase and we play our shows that we are offered. and that's how we like it. we've been playing for a bit over a year now and keep getting offered more and more bigger shows...somebody seems to like us...
what do you do?

[quote][cite] Nasty Left: as far as dawson is concerned
what do you do?

answer:
talk shit on the interwebs

[quote]
what do you do?

bigger shows then you do

[quote]

john crown:

shouts to CAN-U, UNDERSTATEMENT, ERIC SODERQUIST, AND JAY BARZ, wait FUCK JAY BARZ...lol..

everyone drop it.

by the looks of it, he was talking about me. hahahaha

[quote]

Can-U:

[quote]
what do you do?

bigger shows then you do
further proof you do not thoroughly read the posts in this thread, as that comment was clearly directed at dawson and not you. even dragonfish understood that, demonstrating his much greater abilities at reading and comprehension.

funny thing is, you've been on the scene since the biznautics were playing, and you're still playing the same damn venues and places like good old hell's kitchen. how many years have you been stuck in this city convinced you're moving on now? we've been at this 1 year and have some pretty big shows already on our repertoire. if in 5-7 years we're still playing hell's kitchen monthly but acting like we're big, i'll give in.

bottom line:
if you all want to talk about how shitty you think we are, please do so. but start a new thread as you are truly distracting from a good conversation here. crown didn't come here to talk shit about me, so this new direction you have gone is considered "trolling" at it's finest. i love how my opinions of can-u's music are biased but his opinions of mine aren't. that's such a perfect example of the hypocrisy you cyber-dolts possess.
again, i reiterate, if i had come on here under the name "888keiekeie" what would you all be saying right now?

hey what do you mean EVEN dragonfish, im like totally offended

internet beef for sale 3 fo $1

[quote]

evergreenOne:

cant you guys put your differences aside and not bicker about stupid shit with eachother. eventhough i enjoy reading it.

and i enjoy writing it, but still i had much more fun with the original discussion going on here.
unfortunately, can-u came in here and made it personal in relations to my music and completely ruined the thread, yet again. so please, allow me to rephrase your question:

[quote]

evergreenOne:

cant CAN-U put HIS differences aside and not bicker about stupid shit with NASTY LEFT. eventhough i enjoy reading it.

hearts and hugs, smiles and nods

[quote]

DragonfishKillswitch:

hey what do you mean EVEN dragonfish, im like totally offended


hahaha i just meant that you were an innocent observer with no bias in the discussion at hand.
but yeah, we think of you as the village idiot around here...
tee hee
i kid i kid

even though im one of the few people on here that actually can write cogent sentences and knows how to spell

sucka ass cracka ass crackas

[quote]

Nasty Left:

[quote]

Can-U:

funny thing is, you've been on the scene since the biznautics were playing, and you're still playing the same damn venues and places like good old hell's kitchen.

Not to derail this any further but whats the matter with playing at local venues? I personally like the fact that local artists perform locally and don't feel like they have to play in another city to "make it"

Are you suggesting we should have more local artists filling up the T-dome by now?

[quote]

Nasty Left

funny thing is, you've been on the scene since the biznautics were playing, and you're still playing the same damn venues and places like good old hell's kitchen.

Not to derail this any further but whats the matter with playing at local venues? I personally like the fact that local artists perform locally and don't feel like they have to play in another city to "make it"

Are you suggesting we should have more local artists filling up the T-dome by now?